LOST

I don't think Ben can possibly be dead, and I don't think the Dharma Initiative can escape being wiped out. Daniel explained the time travel thing as working in such a way that if something already happened, it can't be changed. So Ben can't be dead, and the Dharma Initiative can't be saved. I'm sort of expecting a storyline to develop where Sawyer et al have to figure that out the hard way when the compound ends up getting attacked. Then maybe Locke will end up saving the Losties, but Jack will still be a total jerk to him, 'cause that's just how Jack is.

God I loathe Jack. His arrogance is so out of proportion to his leadership abilities. The way he has backed off of Sawyer so far is making me suspicious - it's just not in his nature. Is he just biding his time, hoping for Sawyer to fail? It doesn't make sense that suddenly he is not bossy and nosy about everything.

Yay! There aren't many of us Jack haters out there. I've been wishing Locke would whack him every episode from day one. Kate gets annoying, but I don't mind if she lives for the eye candy factor (what? It's tv. It's okay to be shallow about it) Locke is my favorite. From the beginning he was the only one who displayed what I consider a respectable level of curiosity about their situation - everyone else was too busy butting into each other's business every two seconds and treating Locke like a freak because he actually knew how to hunt and feed them. Ingrates.

That's a good point about when someone can be aware of something that has happened in the past. Or one of the pasts, I guess you would say. Will Ben regain conciousness in the present where he is in the sick bay with the latest crash victims and have a new memory of being shot by Sayid, or has he now always had that memory?

I'm not really surprised Sayid shot him, but for a few minutes last night I thought Sayid might take pity on the child Ben and just rescue him. If Sayid was trying to change the course of events, he could have done that by taking Wee Ben under his wing rather than just killing him. Wee Ben was still in his formative years and suffering the effects of abuse, and he could have become a different man if changing the course of things is possible, which Sayid obviously believes. Then again, if it is possible to affect the course of things, maybe Ben became who he is as much from the betrayal of being shot by Sayid when he thought Sayid was his savior, as from the abuse from his father. I don't think Wee Ben was anywhere near evil at that point - manipulative already, yes, but not evilly manipulative.

I think you could be right about this, danbird. I've been thinking along those lines as well. As much as I hate Jack, I think he's very important to the security and future of the Island. I also think that Aaron is, too, but I think I've gone into that before in here.

And viciouscircle, I'm a Locke girl too!! My friends hate me for it, but I've been a Locke supporter all the way through, even when Boone (the best eye candy the Island has had) died and everyone was hatin' on Locke. He's the only one that seems to know what's going on most of the time because he's "in tune" with the Island.

The producers/writers have said you need to consider the Island to be a main character, and I feel that the Island is speaking through Locke now.

Good point about Jack's bloodline. I don't think I can look at it objectively because I don't want to accept any scenario where Jack is more powerful or important than Locke. But what is going on with his dad? Why is he there, how long has he been there, how much has he been a part of, what is his relationship to Ben, what is his whole purpose in the story, how long did it take him to perfect that shit-eating smirk? There are alot of unanswered questions about Christian and they've hardly touched on Jack's relationship to him since he showed up on the island.
But Jack has alot more to overcome than just disbelief to assume Jacob's role, I think. He's petulant, whiny, impulsive, reactive, just not ready for it at this point without a major personality overhaul and alot of just growing up. But that's just how I see him, and I usually feel that way about JJ Abrams characters that are supposed to be the heroes - I couldn't stand Vaughn on Alias, either - he was way too wussy in my book to be a spy. So maybe Jack is in line for something like that. They have to take the whole belief/disbelief thing with him somewhere and maybe you've got it.

But if so, I hope whatever Locke has to do involves giving Jack a solid butt whooping.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT



Duel to death.....WITH TORCHES!!! ;D

I never said Locke didn't have emotions, which is not the same as being whiny. Jack has been whiny or petulant virtually every time he hasn't gotten get his own way, until now with Sawyer, which is why I think it's odd. And I seem to recall him being pretty upset and doubting himself in the first season when he saw his dad in the jungle, and though I don't remember if he actually cried, it doesn't make any difference. One act of crying doesn't make someone whiny, being perpetually in a state of pissiness and overwrought egomania does, though.

It does in my book.

Did it make anyone else sad to see Sayid body slam Jin?

Did you ever think that Locke was just a lonely old man who crashed on an island

Yeah Sayid is a bad son of a gun. That monster would run away quicker than it did with Eko that one time.

I have a soft spot for Sayid, he's my eye candy But his behavior in last night's episode has made me re-think my adoration. He's still a bada$$ (who else can snap a guy's neck with his legs?!) but I think he's on the wrong track now...

I've never been a huge fan of Sayid. I don't like that he has remorse after killing people.

Sayid is also my favorite character. Yeah he can be heartless but sometimes when you are crashed on a crazy time shift island.......you gotta do what needs to be done. Why all the sympathy for little ben? Of course he's not gonna die, he will survive and still grow up to be a creepy dooshface who will kill sayid's wife just to manipulate him.
I love how Jack is powerless to Sawyer and Juliette (kate even more so).


Anybody wanna try some truth-serum with me? hahahahaha

BEST lines yet:

K- What do you mean they're "together?"

H- Together, meaning they live together... like not as roommates. I thought it was kinda obvious, I mean, who couldn't see that coming?

HAHA YES! I'm a huge Kate fan, I'm kind of in love with her, but she deserved this. She had her chance with le fleur and blew it... I really dig on sawyer and juliet, esp since they are running the show now, and getting shit done. As for Jack v Locke, I've always been a Lockey, but the past season and a half my Jack vote has gone up and my Locke vote down. Jack has seen a lot of repurcussions for his superior attitude and he's been kind of put in his place. I guess it takes addiction and love-loss to do that to a person. Now he is just chillin as a janitor and letting others do the work. Locke on the other hand pussed out over the last season or so, he used to be so adamant and driven, but then he got all confused and second guessed himself, he could hardly stand up (literally) against Lt. Daniels when Daniels was giving him shit while driving him all over the place. Then he goes to off himself?

Anyway, Ben is not dead, one shot to the chest is but a flesh wound for that monster. Jin will wake up and resuscitate him and witness the birth of evil Ben.

The one thing that always pisses me off with Lost dialogue is no one can ever really communicate to each other! Sawyer had plenty of time to tell Sayiid, "Sit tight we're back in 77, and we're trying to figure out where to go from here let's work together, talk for a minute and put a plan together as normal people." Well I guess then there'd be no show. hoobity-blah