LOST

FAIL.

That episode was garbage. You'd think they're trying to stretch it out for another season past the next with episodes like that. Yeah, Hurley was funny. Yeah, the folks that are looking for the sh!t in the shadow of the statue contacted Miles earlier. Who cares? Farraday's back. That's about the only good thing about this episode, IMO.

And we have to wait 2 weeks AGAIN for a new episode, WTF? Sorry, I'm a little pissed, and highly disappointed at that.

Aww, danbird, why the hate? I enjoyed that episode because I've been looking forward to Miles' backstory since he was introduced. And it was nice to finally have it confirmed that Pierre Chang is his dad. I've been speculating for a while, but now we know for sure. At least it was something new instead of another Kate/Jack/Sawyer episode, those are getting old. I'm super excited Farraday is back.... 'Bout time.

Never fear, next Wednesday is my birthday, so you can all come party with me and forget that there's no new Lost

Friday is my birthday

The hate is cause I'm tired of these distraction episodes. It was entertaining. Yeah, ok. I want substance though, damnit. I feel the Lost clock ticking and I WANT ANSWERS!!!

I want answers too and I think the season finale is gonna be chock-full of answers. I feel that when we get answers from Lost, we seem to get them in one big lump. I guess I didn't have my expectations high for this week so I wasn't really let down.

Happy early birthday, danbird! Party at my place next Wednesday, Druid!

I didn't mind this episode, mainly because I spent the whole thing trying to figure out if the title is as much a reference to Norse mythology as it was to Star Wars, having read a suggestion that it was just before starting the episode. Seems somewhat possible, but I need to read about the myth of the battle Ragnorok thoroughly, because at this point Ben seems to fit two characters in the mythology and that doesn't make sense. But I'm not very familiar with the story yet, so maybe it is workable.

I am sick of every single guy on this show having major daddy issues. It's boring, and besides, nobody's sad daddy story is ever going to top the supreme quacked-upedness of Locke's, so it would be nice if they would try a totally new direction for backstories. It would also be nice if Kate stopped being a TOTAL MORON for five minutes.

I agree with Airplane about Daniel - he looked like he'd been dipping into teepee dude's sugar cubes.

Yeah, they might as well have just given that title to every episode. Booooring.

After reading about twenty different versions of Rangarok and other Norse mythology, I don't think this episode really leads down that path and the episode title was probably just a really lame Star Wars reference. There are some interesting parallels to Norse mythology though. There's a Dharma Initiative station in Iceland. There is a story about Baldur, Hoth and Loki that precipitates Rangarok (Rangarok is basically an epic battle leading to the destruction and eventual rebirth of the world) and that story does seem to relate to Ben and Locke. Basically Loki, known for deceit and trickery, is jealous of Baldur, but can't kill Baldur himself, so he tricks Baldur's brother, Hoth, also known as Hodor or Hod, into doing it. Ben is jealous of Locke, but can't kill him because of his promise to SmokeyAlex, and I fully expect him to try to trick someone else into doing it. In the mythology, this event leads to a battle that causes the total destruction of the world, after which Baldur is resurrected and the two survivng humans repopulate the world. If Lost is going down that track and Kate and Jack are the relative characters to repopulate, I will vomit. Alot.

There is also something about Odin, who is Baldur's father, frequently asking opponents a trick question about something he whispered to someone (can't remember who now) after Baldur's death, and I thought that might relate to the new "what lies in the shadow of the statue" question everyone keeps asking. The answer to Odin's question is believed by some scholars to be "resurrection." Also, characters in Norse mytholgy seem to die and come back to life fairly regularly. That's pretty Lostish.

I was disappointed with the episode at first as well Danbird, but after thinking it over for a while it really did have some interesting stuff in that I think will become meaningful. The miles backstory was there for a reason not just for our information. I think something significant will happen between Miles and Pierre Chang. Maybe the incident that prompts Pierre to ask his wife to leave the island with little Miles. Also, I think Hurley will do something with the building of the hatch, he will influence it in some way I am not sure what way yet though. I think it is obvious the most important thing to happen was Daniel's return. I believe that is the first step to getting the losties trapped in 77 back to their normal time. Daniel came back for a reason he has to have some kind of information about what is happening and how to change it.

Also the dollar amount Miles asked him for 3.2 million dollars is the same amount he wanted from Ben when he first got to the island.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It could be him. I hope we get to meet him - I'd expect him to be worse than Ben and Widmore combined.

You know what I realized? Almost everyone, male and female, has daddy issues. The few exceptions are:
Juliet, she had ex-husband issues instead;
Sayid, but we haven't met his dad, I don't think.
(and some dead characters, but I won't name them)

Obviously, it's a recurring theme, but I also think it's an important underlying point. Not sure how though. The writers are just very deliberate with what they do, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they all share the same type of issues.

Anyone else here recognize the arab passenger from the 2nd plane crash (the guy who ben shot) as the torturer from Three Kings?

I liked how right before the end of the episode we learn that Ben got the bruises on his face after being beaten by desmond

I'm not completely sure that Horace is Ethan's father. I think Ethan's father is Amy's first husband, the one that was killed and whose body was taken by the Others (when the first Losties arrived in 1974; Sawyer negoiated with Richard Alpert to take this man's body since he killed two Others). I believe that this man-- I can't think of his name-- is actually alive and is Ethan's real father. Amy could be a spy for the Others, and could have been before her husband was killed, and married Horace since he's the one "in charge" of the Dharma iniative. If this were true, then it would be easy for Ethan to be an Other, with the help of his mom and real father. It's purely speculation, but it makes sense to me

And this isn't my theory, but Hurley could be the one responsible for "the incident". During last week's epsiode when he was at the Swan's construction site, he commented that they were building the thing that housed the computer that crashed their plane. Maybe he goes in to try to sabotage the construction of the hatch and something goes badly wrong.

It wasn't even a good recap show, it seemed like it was put together by a high school media class. They should have just reran the Locke/Ben episode - I've watched that three times now and I'd still have enjoyed it more than that recap.