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Wow, this is honestly the first time ive watched an episode of Lost and been dissapointed. That was anticlimactic to say the least. I still have faith in the writers and that the final season will be great but that finale was weak sauce.
Ah, they tried to make it look like we were going to lose Sayid.... but I knew it was a ploy! I can't say I'm incredibly sad to see Juliette go though. I'm disappointed with her character; what was her purpose? To detonate the bomb in the end? Or to make Sawyer seem like a "real" person?
Did anyone notice how Jacob touched all of the survivors in the flashbacks? Or if he didn't touch them directly, he handed something to them that he had touched. Very interesting....
Awesome episode but not quite a cliff-hanger like previous finales have been. I'm really please with the progression of the storyline though!
Anyone able to translate what Richard said to Ilana in response to the "What lies in the shadow of the statue" question??? Mi espanol no bueno.
My biggest problem with the finale was that it was all building to something and then there was really no payoff besides the Jacob/Ben thing which wasnt really a payoff because nobody knows what the hell it meant. Ah well, I just have to wait nearly a year for the payoff. ):
Right. That's what I'm saying. There's so many biblical references. The black and white everything. Jacob was wearing white in the beginning. The other dude was wearing black.
I still feel like Jacob and Jack are related. There was talk of Moses in these episodes too. MUST. WATCH. AGAIN.
Aaron is the brother of Moses... I remember Eko telling Claire the story after she named the baby.
I think it's interesting that this guy seems to have posessed Locke's... spirit or something. We've seen Locke's body, so is this guy just projecting an illusion? Maybe kin to what the smoke monster does?
He found a loophole. Whatever that means. I just wanna know if it's the same sorta deal with Christian or if Christian is actually alive. It would seem that Christian is just a manifestation of this same guy, for now at least.
I think they caused everything to happen/didn't change anything.
Did the electromagnetic pulse of the bomb cause them all to time travel again? Maybe they went way back in time so the writers can explain the history of the island?
What Richard said was "il qui nos omnes servabit". At least thats what my closed caption said. Latin translation is "He who will save/protect us all".
I think the Loophole is that Ben was ordered by Jacob to do whatever Locke says. So whoever this Locke is tells him to kill Jacob and he has to.
I really have a problem with the whole blow up a bomb to stop a drill theory. Seems to me all they had to do is kill Krazinski or whatever his name is. It was his project. Then when the bomb is blown up the drill had already hit the pocket, so there was no point to do it.
Post by awolfatthedoor on May 14, 2009 0:21:55 GMT -5
To me they result of the bomb can't be a clear cut they changed it so the plane didn't wreck and they ended up at LAX or they didn't change it and they all died. If either of those then everyone who was back in time would be either dead or irrelevant due to absolutely nothing happening. That would kill the story lines for everyone except those with fake Locke and Richard. So I think somehow they are going to explain that something changed so it's in between those two outcomes or something like that. I really have no idea as to the result of the bomb but I am pretty sure that the two supposed outcomes can't happen.
Also I'm curious to see how Jacob going back to visit all of those characters will play out because I am almost certain they didn't do that to just be like oh that's cool how he showed up. There seems to be importance behind every scene in Lost and that would seem to be a major waste. Also I think that there will be plenty more on Jacob because I doubt they would just introduce him, outside of the mystery surrounding his existence, into the show and kill him off in the same episode.
I enjoyed the finale although I was disappointed that there was no cliffhanging revelation about those that are back in time. I was hoping for something other than the open-ended season finale surrounding them. Over all I am really curious to see where the show goes.
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To me they result of the bomb can't be a clear cut they changed it so the plane didn't wreck and they ended up at LAX or they didn't change it and they all died. If either of those then everyone who was back in time would be either dead or irrelevant due to absolutely nothing happening. That would kill the story lines for everyone except those with fake Locke and Richard. So I think somehow they are going to explain that something changed so it's in between those two outcomes or something like that. I really have no idea as to the result of the bomb but I am pretty sure that the two supposed outcomes can't happen.
Yeah. This seems right. It wouldn't be very interesting to have everyone die. Seems like it would make Juliette's "sacrifice" not really a sacrifice. Def seems like maybe they traveled through time again, with the white flash and the LOST on the white background.
So a little Biblical history here. I was just thinking about this alot last night and thought it'd be good to write it out......
Abraham had Issac who had Jacob and Esau. Jacob became the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. Esau became the father of Edom, or the Edomites, which most people think became the descendants of Europe, including the Roman Empire.
It seems more like Jacob is a Jesus figure to me. Jacob loves you. Him touching all the 815 wreckers in some way. He was betrayed by a "follower" (Ben). There was reference before to Jack being like Doubting Thomas, another disciple of Jesus. Yeah, so I dunno if either one holds more significance over the other, but I find it very interesting.
I think it is def a representation of the bible. Whether it be god and satan or Jacob and Esau. I really wish they would have given us something esle at the end there. I was a little pissed. The rest of the episode I thougth was awesome and kept me guessing the whole time. I hate that Juliette died instead of Kate. I think I teared up when that happened.
I am with Danbird and awol. That bomb did not kill them or send them to LAX. I think they caused the accident they were trying to stop. Also I think that blast will send them back to present day to be with Ben, Locke, and Sun. I do want them to go deeper into the islands history, esp Jacob and the other guy. I don't think Jacob is dead either, if it was that easy wouldn't he be dead already?
Was that ship at the beginning suppose to be the Blackrock?
"In most subsequent depictions, Taweret was depicted with features of a pregnant woman. In a composite addition to the animal-compound she was also seen with pendulous breasts, a full pregnant abdomen, and long, straight human hair on her head. As a protector, she often was shown with one arm resting on the sa symbol, which symbolized protection, and on occasion she carried an ankh, the symbol of life, or a knife, which would be used to threaten evil spirits."
So I posted this a couple of pages ago. I assume that this is the Statue? I mean it looked kinda like it, but it wasnt pregnant.
We've seen Locke's body, so is this guy just projecting an illusion? Maybe kin to what the smoke monster does?
Or is he the smoke monster?
Jacob brings people to the Island, then his alter ego messes them up to prove Jacob wrong. This cycle appears to have been going on a VERY long time. Jacob's nemesis found a way to break the cycle using Locke. But Jacob still has something up his sleeve. He could have talked Ben out of killing him with one kind word.
I think the Loophole is that Ben was ordered by Jacob to do whatever Locke says. So whoever this Locke is tells him to kill Jacob and he has to.
Ben was ordered by the smoke monster to follow Locke. I am going to use this to support my theory that the smoke monster is not Jacob, but his unnamed enemy.
Here is an interesting summation of the final show:
What Richard said was "il qui nos omnes servabit". At least thats what my closed caption said. Latin translation is "He who will save/protect us all".
Thanks! I should learn the difference between languages.
I think the Loophole is that Ben was ordered by Jacob to do whatever Locke says. So whoever this Locke is tells him to kill Jacob and he has to.
I can totally see this being the loophole. But, I also think, like TheDruid pointed out, that the un-named guy in black could BE the smoke monster. Then it wouldn't have been Jacob that told Ben to do whatever Locke said to do... it would have been the other guy.
I don't think I buy the "Jacob as Jesus" idea. This episode seemed to portray Jacob in a sinister light; that he uses people as pawns for his own enjoyment. He thinks this is progress, the other guy thinks it's sick.
Also worth mentioning that Jacob touched or at least handed something to everyone accept Juliette. It looked like Locke was dead until Jacob touched him and he gasped back to life.
And at the beginning Jacob and the other guy were wearing black and white. Just like the stones in the bag that was with "Adam & Eve" and like the speech Locke gave Walt about backgammon in season 1.
Every season has ended with something being blown up which is sorta weird.
And getfresh, I think that is the wrong God. Tawaret is the goddess of fertility. No one can have a baby on the Island.
I've heard mentioned of it possibly being Anubis. Or maybe it's a mixture of the two? I can see the similarities in the picture getfresh posted and Tawaret. I think the fact that people can't have babies on the Island is a punishment for something.
And FINALLY, someone said something about Richard not aging. Talk about white elephant in the room.
Seriously! Maybe this is a punishment for Richard, never aging?
Post by viciouscircle on May 14, 2009 9:58:50 GMT -5
I think the statue could be what getfresh posted - it has been there for who knows how long and we don't know how long women have been unable to have babies on the island. Maybe the incident caused that, maybe the destruction of the statue itself caused that, maybe both things happened at the same time.
I can't believe that ultimately, Jack's motivation for blowing up the island was so he wouldn't have a broken heart over losing Kate. Then Juliette goes along with it becuase she thinks Sawyer really loves Kate. Kate took a baby and kept him from his grandmother to deal with losing Sawyer. WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE JUST EAT A FEW PINTS OF HAAGEN DAZ AND/OR GET DRUNK TO DEAL WITH BREAKUPS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE?!?!
