I'm really disappointed

Bonnaroo!!!!

ooh ooh... I want to make a long rambling post too


I guess I'm one of those people who tries to stay positive on these boards. I like to joke around and keep it light. (nom nom nom) I usually stay away from conflict.

but honestly... I AM disappointed in Bonnaroo this year and probably won't go. I'm going to other fests and my summer will be jam-packed with music. My decision NOT to go didn't have anything to do with Metallica, Kanye, or WSP. It all boils down to the fact that my favorite bands are playing other places and I can catch them without the marathon endurance test that IS Bonnaroo. In past years it was worth it and I suffered the heat and exhaustion with a big smile on my face. This year it just isn't worth it. I kept waiting for Superfly to give me that one "thing" I couldn't resist... didn't happen.

I love that crazy farm in TN. Part of my heart is there. I know that place like the back of my hand. I've had some of my best memories there (musical and otherwise) but Roo doesn't have a monopoly on good times. "The Roo Vibe" isn't really a ROO thing... it's at Rado, AllGood, Echo, and at a lot of the other fests too. It started before we were born and will continue after we die. PEOPLE carry that vibe not a single event.

All you hippie haters need to realize that Bonnaroo started with "jam-bands"... and hippies... and all the traditions that go with them. Have some respect. Fans like me don't appreciate being talked down to and thrown a bone... we want to be represented fairly. Sure, Roo has changed and evolved, everybody knows that... can we just show a little understanding to those who don't LOVE those changes...

I was at the Roo '02... I was at Roo '07... I've seen the changes with my own two eyes. Everything is different, good in some ways, bad in others. Bonnaroo used to be MY fest now it's somebody else's... I hope those people have their faces ripped to shreds by outstanding music... I'll do the same, just not at Roo.





.... and a note to Stallion:
don't preach to Dude about his "facist attitude" and how he "doesn't get it" when you're telling Jerry fans to go to hell in your sig... .... I find THAT offensive...

For the record, I've just been here this Saturday afternoon killing time before Mini-Kiss... nothing serious about it... seriously... Hey Dude... know who put on a fantastic show for me back in 1987... Huey Lewis and the News... I was 13 at the time, and it blew my mind! Think I'm gonna go crank a little Heart of Rock and Roll... it's in Cleaveland you know

even if i didnt love you for being you, this is exactly how i feel, and exactly why im not going to roo this year either.
you summed up my thoughts better than I.

and for the record jam has to be the most diverse class of music as far as undefinable music classifications go. the dead, string cheese, left over slamon, umphrey's, bisco, robert randolph, les claypool, mule, keller, grace potter, deep banana blackout, moe., oar, toubab krewe, tlg, wsp, oysterhead, msmw, etc... all groups i would consider jam. and they represent such a wide spectrum of music that its almost impossible to even call it a genre. to me there is diversity all over the jam scene. not only between the bands, but also just within a band from one show to the next. its not the same set list played the same way 50 times in a row and callin it a tour. its different everytime. to me jam = diversity almost every band outside of the mainstream cash cow bands that do the same show every freeking night just like it is on the cd so the lights will look super neato and whatnot can be considered jambands. roo in recent times has embraced those cash cow productions. its more of a play then a concert. they are actors putting on the same play everynight. its boring to me, and to me its not what roo was about. umphreys and company are authors, giving us a new experience every time we see them. and people can say what they want about 04 and dave but youve never heard me bitch. because i loved both shows. you couldnt have asked for a better set of special guests then what dave had. he got what roo headlining was all about. imo metallica, tom petty, tool, the police, etc... havent got a clue. i guess i shouldnt prejudge because i had to eat my words with radiohead. but i feel like im pretty safe in assuming that metallica is gonna put on the same show theyve been putting on for a decade. i dont mind pj. i woulda had them open for neil young is all. but the bottom line is that even if you do despise all hiphop or electronic or whatever and are a closed minded jam fan then id still say you have far more diversity in your music then most of the people listening to tool, metallica, or kanye. not judging. just forming my opinion based on my experiences in life. am i still entitled top do that?

My sig line is a quote from The Electric apricot movie, which was written by Les Claypool. If you find it offensive, take it up w/ him. And it's not directed at all Jerry fans, rather at good-for-nothing festie-touring hippies who don't get jobs and contribute to society and whatnot.

F-in hippies have no sense of humor. Reminds me of a lyric from someone else about hippies that will probably offend you:

We're never wrong about nothing
And we look pretty good
We never ever have to worry
We're always in a hurry
To convince ourselves that what we are
Is really very groovy
If we believe what's in the papers
And the magazines that define our folklore
We can never laugh
At who or what we think we are
Or even what we think
We sorta oughta be
'Cause we are totally empty
And our lives are really useless
So what the f@ck?
We ain't got no sense of humor
We got nothing left
To laugh about
Including ourselves
-------------------------Frank Zappa: "We're Turning again"

I kinda miss him too...
but then I remember how he called me an "oblivious bitch" and I get over it.

Yeah, upon getting the chance to spend a bunch of wildly intense fun-lovin' time with The Princess Alyroo... I gotta say NOTHING could be farther from the truth ;D

what she said
what he said (although that oblivious bitch thing sucks)

short for customer.... its kind of a negative term about people who are on vacation at fests and spend lots of money to keep the festie machine rolling. kinda the same as white hat. and not to be harsh or whatnot but its why there are bands like tool, kanye, the police, beastie boys, metallica, etc... keep showing up at fests. to "diversify" with people who spend money. i should purge all negativity from my life and quit using terms like custie. we will see how that goes ;D

and touchheads

!NoMNoMNoM!

same here man. killing time on inforoo is good times. i just hope no one is seriously personally offended. nothing i say should be taken seriously. and enjoy that mini kiss man! im gonna hold out and catch em headlining roo next year ;D but seriously have fun. i saw some type of thing about them and it seemed like a fun show. little people are always fun!

and make that all good thing happen!

Now I don't know about Kanye...

But Tool? Seriously? They are known for some Wal-Mart-brand music that you would call mainstream? We've had this same discussion before, over and over and over. And certainly if you say jam bands represent all genres and yet somehow out of over 100 you can only find two, I guess I can't argue with whatever cloudy logic gets you there. But to keep drumming on about how jam bands are diverse, but there's no room for diversity- (again, as if this festival had been around for more than 6 years)- and then use Tool and Beasties (!) as a shield of populist content... Yikes. And lesse, how many fests for those mentioned bands? Um, not many. Meanwhile JJ and WSP make the rounds. How many fests feature Lesh? Everyone keeps saying how there's plenty of jam fests out there-- so why should Roo compartmentalize and homogenize again?

Roo has changed-- it has become a fest that an even larger segment of music lovers can enjoy. So that the Blues fan can feel comfortable where they might not normally. The Pitchfork kid. The Harp (R.I.P.) loyalist. The Bluegrass fanatic. The metal fan? Still not so much (they have even fewer bands than the jam crowd- they must be PISSED!). But it's still LIGHT YEARS away from a Hannah Montana festival.

And wasn't it "back in the old days" of Roo when William Hung of American Idol showed up? In fact it was in the first three years that TWO American Idol people made an appearance...

Just sayin.