will Phish at Roo 09 be the new.....

^i was never a LZ supporter (playing roo) - for the record.

This. Here, have some karma.

1. Where did you get this?
2. There are a lot of festivals on there (hence why I don't believe it)
3. Clearly you've never been to the Newport in Columbus. It only holds a couple thous people (and thats rounding up). I highly doubt they would play there - though I friggin love that venue
4. Hookahville? Really? - again, hence why this "schedule" is a joke

Sorry for being so harsh, but come on. Let's hold onto a little bit of reality here

edit
the posted "schedule" I'm referencing was delete-hence why this post no longer makes sense

some dates were wrong, in for revision


edit: ok sorry about that, apparently camp bisco had to cancel, apparently some permit issues or something, the venue wanted nothing to do with it. this is all still pretty tenative anyway, but so far it looking like this. i'll let you guys know when everything becomes official.


3/6 hapton colliseum, hampton, va
3/7 hapton colliseum, hampton, va
3/8 hapton colliseum, hampton, va
5/12 saratoga performing arts center, saratoga, ny
5/13 saratoga performing arts center, saratoga, ny
5/20 riverbend music center, cincinnati, oh
5/21 riverbend music center, cincinnati, oh
5/29 hookaville 31, thornville, oh
5/30 hookaville 31, thornville, oh
6/2 newport theater, columbus oh
6/3 newport theater, columbus oh
6/7 red rocks ampitheater, red rocks, co
6/8 red rocks ampitheater, red rocks, co
6/13 bonnaroo music festival, manchester tn
6/14 bonnaroo music festival, manchester tn
6/15 bonnaroo music festival, manchester tn
6/19 telluride bluegrass festival, tulluride, co
6/19 telluride bluegrass festival, tulluride, co
6/30 gratefulfest, garrettsville, oh
7/1 gratefulfest, garrettsville, oh
7/2 high sierra music festival, quincy, ca
7/4 rothbury festival, rothbury, mi
7/10 all good music festival, masontown, wv
7/11 all good music festival, masontown, wv
7/13 verizon wireless ampitheater, noblesville, in
7/14 verizon wireless ampitheater, noblesville, in
7/15 verizon wireless ampitheater, noblesville, in
7/24 10,000 lakes music festival, detroit lakes, mn
7/25 10,000 lakes music festival, detroit lakes, mn
8/1 ?, limestone, me
8/2 ?, limestone, me
8/3 ?, limestone, me
8/4 ?, limestone, me
8/5 ?, limestone, me

oh what a jokester you are Nol <3

Let's look at it from the perspective of Superfly/AC. Here they are, putting together next year's festival, and they get word that Phish is reuniting and touring next spring/summer. They know their core demographic greatly overlaps with Phish's core demographic. They know it will end up being one of, if not the, biggest tours of the summer. And they are on very friendly terms with all members of the band. Add to this, they of course are looking to top themselves every year, and if it is true that they sold significantly under this year (I think 65K was mentioned), they especially have it out to reclaim their status as THE American summer music festival.
I guess all I really want to prove is that the powers behind Bonnaroo most certainly want Phish there, regardless of whether it may be the best decision. In fact, they may even be aware that it may not be the best decision, but still feel as though the must try to book them because they would look impotent and unimportant to outsiders if this huge festival with jam roots wasn't able to book the preeminent jamband. You can bet your ass they are at least trying to get Phish there... so how likely do you think they are to succeed?

Well according to Clarity, not very.

"3. Clearly you've never been to the Newport in Columbus. It only holds a couple thous people (and thats rounding up). I highly doubt they would play there - though I friggin love that venue"

the band wants to return to their roots in some more intimate settings, hence a lot of the smaller festivals and venues

i dunno, streetbum i think you may have a point, this Friday morning, I got together with Mike, Page and Fish to talk openly about the strong feelings I've been having that Phish rumors have run their course and that I should end it now while it's still on a high note. Once we started talking, it quickly became apparent that the other guys' feelings, while not all the same as mine, were similar in many ways -- most importantly, that we all love and respect Phish rumors and the Phish rumor audience far too much to stand by and allow these rumors to drag on beyond the point of vibrancy and health. I don't want to become a caricature of myself, or worse yet, a nostalgia act. By the end of the meeting, I realized that after almost three years on inforoo I was faced with the opportunity to graciously step away in unison, as an inforooster, united in my friendship and my feelings of gratitude.

So this lineup will be the final Phish rumor. I am proud and thrilled that it was in our home state of Tennesse. I'm also excited for the June and August shows, our most recent tour together. For the sake of clarity, I should say that this is not like the hiatus, which was my last attempt to revitalize myself. I'm done. It's been an amazing and incredible journey. I thank you all for the love and support that you've shown me.

-- nol13

^^I think you made a valid point

I, for one, had never even thought of Rothbury as an option but you make it make sense

For the record, I too agree it's not likely they do a festie but they damn sure are gonna be asked to more than once

And the thought of Phish on the mountaintop is pretty surreal too!

Weren't we actually discussing that at All Good this year?

Well thanks. And I agree. I have no doubt that everyone is going to try to get Phish at their fest. I just doubt they will say yes

No, I believe what you heard was that PHISH is going to be tearing the place down

Sorry I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything. I think you make some terrific points. But here's where I disagree. I think there are in fact very few festivals right now that could actually sustain a Phish headliner (Waka, Allgood, 10KL still too small) and would even want to (not of interest to Coachella, SXSW, Virgin... maybe Lolla).
Rothbury is an excellent suggestion. They had an amazingly successful first year, and are sure to grow by leaps and bounds. But still, they are a smaller fest than Bonnaroo and can only grow so much from year to year. I think that if Phish were to continue their tour through 2010, Rothbury would be ready to host them then. 2009 is just a tad too soon.
And if I can add to my original post, let's again think about it from Superfly/AC's perspective. How would they look if an upstart like Rothbury booked the biggest jamband AND biggest reunion act and Bonnaroo didn't? I think they'd do everything in their power to get Phish there because of all it would do for them, and for all it would do to them if they didn't. They have been known to pull out stops and change the rules of their fest to accommodate artists (I hesitate to say the K-word), and so I think it's even difficult for us fans to even imagine what they might do to get Phish on board, so it makes it seem less likely than it probably is.

That's my take.