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Yeah ITM ^^^ we did. We were just hanging out at camp after brunch on Friday, and 2 cops on 2 atvs pulled up in front of our cars, got off their ATVs and walked up into our camp. Asked us if we were having a good time, to which we said, Yeah, great time! being all friendly Then he said, "It can't be that good a time, I don't see any dope around here." as he and the other cop were eye-effing our entire set up. At this point I realize they're there to bust people, and I say, "no sir that's not really necessary for fun. would either of you like a water? it's hot out." and they both kind of realized they were in a no-corn zone, and had the look on their faces like, "oh, not everyone here is smokin' dope." and politely said thanks they had their own, wished us a happy and safe bonnaroo, and left.
It was weird. Never in all my years. But I just treated them nice and they were nice back. No real "harassment."
Thanks. That's really interesting and I dislike hearing that.
Again, were they police officers or just security guards working for the security firm? Like did they have Police on their outfits? If they were local law enforcement then that's a reason to be angry. If they were just security guys then they may have been looking for free stuff. I assume they were legit cops and looked like it. I really don't like that kind of thing.
Bonnaroo uses Axis security. They have for as long as I can remember. And while they can sometimes be dicks they do have their company name displayed several times on their bright shirts and various credentials. So it's easy to identify them. Also they have their names displayed in case there is ever a serious problem.
Post by railroad436 on Jun 14, 2012 15:57:08 GMT -5
Our friends had their campsite ransacked because the guy next to them was selling all kinds of stuff and had made it clear he had tons of stuff so people were probably looking for his stash. They didnt think anything was stolen.
I kept all my valuables in my backpack or locked in my glovebox. I had my backpack either on my back, at my feet, or in my tent right next to my head while I was sleeping. I would never think to leave anything I didnt mind getting stolen out in the open.
Turtles are, actually quite sexy, if you think about it. I’m getting an erection just thinking about turtles. No, not a stripper named turtles, that’s not funny. Actual turtles.
—?Thom Yorke
I pretty much decided that I won't be back to Roo for a while, if ever again while packing up on Monday. If I come back it will be with/for my kids to experience it, while I am there for safety/protection/food/$ etc.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 14, 2012 17:32:14 GMT -5
In my experience the cooler is usually one of the only places they really search. I've had them not look twice in my car but go through coolers thoroughly.
Post by misterroosterny on Jun 14, 2012 17:43:56 GMT -5
As others have said though, roo got a little too shady for another repeat attendance. Until the lineup is seriously STACKED again, as was this year for me, I will check out hangout fest and possibly waka next year. Bonnaroo will always have my heart, but time to share the love and see some new fests in the mean time. Such a magical feeling though standing in what stage field, sharing the experience with the 60-70 percent of good peeps, watching the lanterns take off into the sky giving someone outside fest just a glimpse of the good vibes inside. I dont know if the other fests will hold up, so this will be a defining year coming up for me.
Post by Od Lid Johnny on Jun 14, 2012 18:03:22 GMT -5
I just read a recap of the festival from Manchester. Talking of citations and arrests and seizures. They made mention that they read the boards and that is how they knew to look in peanut butter jars.
One of our campmates had a Camelbak stolen, and then the next night our campsite got kinda ransacked and poor Mayo had her tent slashed. Luckily they didn't take anything other than that same guy's car keys, but they ditched 'em on the ground not far away (presumably once they discovered his car was not there). Neighbors told us that a bunch of tents in our area were slashed and ransacked like that.
Yes. My sixth Roo and this is the first time I've ever had something like this happen. For locations sake, we were in Pod 9, Roger Podacter. On Thursday night, I think was when the camelbak was taken - fortunately, no important things were in it - wallet, ID, keys were all intact in campmate's tent. Then Friday we got back to camp after Radiohead, and noticed camp looked pretty messy. Then I stepped into my OPEN UNLOCKED NO RAIN FLY ON IT tent, and all of my shiz had had been tossed, and the RAINPROOF BOTTOM had a 5' gash in it. Seriously? You couldnt just go through the zipper door? or even through the 6' tall screen windows on three sides? I was also pretty grossed out that someone had touched my pillow. *shudder* Fortunately, I dont keep anything important in my tent, everything stays in the TRUNK. And whoever the idiot is, he left enough prescription pills to get him through the weekend bc they had a generic name on them. SUCKA.
Anyhow, I was pretty sad about it. It's one thing I miss about Pod 1; the lack of randos walking around the camp sites. In Pod 1, you arent there unless you're camping there. So I imagine there's less crime.
Previously mentioned campmate here...it definitely sucked but mostly because it killed the vibe. Crime happens everywhere, but when it happens to you it takes the magic away. Definitely feel bad for mayo and her tent. Monetarily that was the worst damage, having to replace her tent. Everything of mine that was stolen can be easily replaced. Won't keep me away from roo, but I might try harder to get into pod 1 again!!
Post by kidabstract on Jun 14, 2012 18:36:30 GMT -5
Man, to anyone that was robbed in darth vader: that really sucks.
We were camped there, nothing happened to us or our neighbors. We had all valuables in the car. The only thing that was out was our cooler with beer/food, which was never stolen.
But now that I think about it, one night my friend came back to camp and saw a guy in our tent. He asked what the hell he was doing, to which he replied "Oh, is this your tent? Sorry man, I just took a bunch of acid"
I never really had to deal with police, either. The only encounter I had was with a couple of really old mounted ones that wanted us to move our jeep back a couple of feet.
This year was the first year I was ever pulled over during my trip. Got stopped about 15 miles out of Manchester for following too closely. The cop asked if he could search my car and I told him he could use his drug dog if he wanted. So he did and of course the dog hit on a door (there was nothing to hit on, we had absolutely nothing illegal in the car) so he didn't find anything when he searched. After that he went back to being pretty chill.
Post by greenpeas7 on Jun 14, 2012 19:43:52 GMT -5
It's so disappointing to be a victim and to hear of all the theft this year. It just makes the magic of roo feel tainted. I'm seriously contemplating spreading mace on my tent next year (I realize the likelihood of hurting myself or camp mates far outweighs this anti-theft plan). It's just really a shame when this sort of stuff follows you to a place most of us come to for an escape from real world drama.
This is not a theft story, but a worthless, shady, carnie story...Back at camp after Phish on Sunday night, a dude came by looking for some corn. He then told us he is one of the guys running the ferris wheel (I was camped behind the one near Bushy Branch, so I assume that's the one he was working) and wanted to know if we wanted any mesc@line. He said that he and his work crew were all messed up on the stuff the night before while giving the patrons rides. He started talking sh*t about his boss getting mad at them for it (you think). Apparently, he was also upset that his boss wouldn't let him have any of the m3th and h3roin his boss found in a suitcase under the ferris wheel. He then started bragging about how he needed money the other day at the fest, so he put some peanut butter in a baggie and sold it has peanut butter hash. I don't think I ever wanted to be away from someone that bad before.
I just read a recap of the festival from Manchester. Talking of citations and arrests and seizures. They made mention that they read the boards and that is how they knew to look in peanut butter jars.
Again, that was probably from the idiots on the PT boards...
Sheriffs are the worst there. They consider it an annual fundraiser and the more citations they write the bigger the party they can afford.
Quacker, if you are referring to Manchester Sheriff's Dept here, you are kinda wrong on that.
Our Sheriff and Police Dept are some of the best, most professional, well behaved officers I have ever encountered and I believe it is because of roo!
Remeber, we bring in over 250 officers from other areas during Bonnaroo who are not indicative of the Manchester force.
Out of close to 100K total people here, to write the small amount of citations they write is actuall pretty amazing. Imagine how many they COULD write if they were "the worst, and look at it as a fund raiser" That is a very inaccurate statement!!!
We have to balance the enforcement of the laws with not running off the festival. There is a balance there! We could fill the jail and a temporary if we wanted to, they don't.
Just my humble opinion from someone who deals with them the other 361 days of the year.
Post by jerrygriffies on Jun 15, 2012 8:13:02 GMT -5
Stupid people are not limited to the campsites. Stupid people were also in other areas being stupid messing things up for the not stupid people.
All the Bonnaroo security folks, the yellow shirts, I encountered were professionals. I didn't like their answers a time or two but they did their job responsibly and without being an a$$hole.
roofan, no offense, but how can you say they write a "small amount" of citations when those citations (which are usually in the $1k-$5k range) net the county millions of dollars?
That would indicate they write a massive amount of citations. They have pre-signed warrants (still looking into just how those can be legal), and just throw one at you while ordering you out of your car.
To say that the only bad behavior from cops is from out-of-the-area cops is to be pulling the wool over your own eyes. What quacker said is 100% true from everything I've seen. I deal with NYPD cops who are the same way, I've dealt with LAPD cops who are the same way. Cops are cops, and while they might be more polite in Coffee County, they're still cops who take the ultimate pleasure in railing a bunch of hippies for thousands upon thousands of dollars in fines. Not sure how getting over $1k in a fine for a couple corn kernals is really defendable.
I wasn't referring to the amount of money the fine costs, I was talking about the number of citations written vs. the number of attendees. Do you really think they couldn't write anymore than they do? Believe me they could. Manchester/Coffee County makes way money off Bonnaroo attendees spending than we do arresting!
They wrote 410 citations and made 40 arrests this year (450 people out of 100,000 is 0.45%) I would call that a "small amount" of citations, yes!
Edit: And BTW, while I dont agree with it, a couple of kernels is still illegal!
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I dont do anything like this, but while doing the post show Clean Up, I talked to a few kids who owned one of those drug testers. They said they found 10 people who were selling "mollie", but out of the ten they tested... 7 were bath salts, 2 were meth and only 1 was actually mollie. So anyone who doess do that stuff. He said the kit is only $20-25 and has 150 tests per order. Crazy shittt. but I'd say its definitely worth it.
I wasn't referring to the amount of money the fine costs, I was talking about the number of citations written vs. the number of attendees. Do you really think they couldn't write anymore than they do? Believe me they could. Manchester/Coffee County makes way money off Bonnaroo attendees spending than we do arresting!
They wrote 410 citations and made 40 arrests this year (450 people out of 100,000 is 0.45%) I would call that a "small amount" of citations, yes!
Edit: And BTW, while I dont agree with it, a couple of kernels is still illegal!
The police/DTF HAVE to look the other way, otherwise Bonnaroo doesn't exist, and they don't get their 7 or 8 figure cash cow every June.
And those numbers are most likely messed with (the citations, not the arrests). They want to maximize $$$ while not making it appear out of control to locals who aren't thrilled about the idea of Hippie Mecca being in their backyard. But still, a couple million dollars off a few hundred citations means each citation is paying a LOT of cash. It's a cash grab, plain and simple. It's questionable from a legality standpoint, it's definitely questionable from a morality standpoint, and doing it under the mask of "safety" is insulting. They target cars from far away states so they know the likelihood of them coming to fight the citation in court is minimal, and they're most likely just going to pay the fine to make it go away. That's why when I pulled over to be searched (and by that I mean a cop unzipped my dufflebag, turned it upside down, and shook it so all my clothes fell on the ground) every single one of the 9 cars being searched were from NY/NJ/CT/MA. Oh, but they were polite, so I guess that makes it okay.
Also, read this. It's a forum for law officers around the country, someone basically describes what they do down in Coffee County with these DTF searches and such, and it's almost unanimous that these officers disagree with what they're doing. forums.officer.com/t178702/
Also, read this. It's a forum for law officers around the country, someone basically describes what they do down in Coffee County with these DTF searches and such, and it's almost unanimous that these officers disagree with what they're doing. forums.officer.com/t178702/
this was actually a pleasant surprise. i mean i obviously can't stand the attitudes (such as: "I personally have no problem lining patrol cars up and stopping vehicles for moving violations and then trying for dope or whatever else. That is where the odds are. When I go fishing, I go to the hot spot and drop as many lines as I legally can to catch the fish.") but it's nice to know not all cops are down with illegal stops & searches. i hope someone does make a call to the AG's office.
And you will notice that the OP of that thread is NOT from Manchester. I can't speak for what any other PD's do, but our officers here DO respect the roo attendees and the arrests and citations, IMO are a small, but necessary part of roo being here, just like every other festival in the country.
But I do appreciate your sharing with me your expertise on a police department from a town that you dont even live in, thanks for that!!!
locals who aren't thrilled about the idea of Hippie Mecca being in their backyard
Another example of you not knowing Manchester. I would say the number of locals who dislike Bonnaroo to be in about the 7 - 10% range of our total population.
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Post by upliftingsound on Jun 15, 2012 10:05:19 GMT -5
I had a roo related experience with Manchester PD a few years ago that isn't really fit to be told here. I will say that they did things the best they could have, we're friend, professional, and even posed for a picture. I don't like the reason this experience occurred but they did their job well.
Correct, that OP is not from Manchester, but maybe you can explain why that makes his comments any less relevant? Because an outsider's account of what happens there should be more relevant, IMO. Someone from Coffee County might be used to being extorted by their law enforcement, but the vast majority of the country is not familiar with such upstanding and moral behavior. The fact that law enforcement officials from around the country agree on something strengthens the case, not weakens it. If a cop in NY, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona all agree that something happening in Tennessee is morally and legally ambiguous, at best, than it probably is.
And I wasn't referring to just Manchester in that "backyard" comment, but you may be right. The vast majority of my interactions with people in-and-around Manchester have been lovely. I'm not saying local people dislike Bonnaroo, or the attendees (and what sane person would dislike a financial windfall? Honestly? That'd be like me disliking real estate developers as a construction manager), but if the cops stopped every car and wrote up 80K citations, the view on the festival, and it's attendees, would change. So my original point about them finding that middle ground between raking in the cash while not upsetting anyone local still stands.
And I really don't think the sarcasm was warranted. I've been straight forward in sharing my experience, and it's one that is echoed by quite a few inforoosters, if not hundreds of Roo attendees. They profile people from long distances, then extort them for $. It's that simple. I was being nice about it, out of respect, but if you won't show that same respect I don't feel the need to either. The cops there threw my sh*t on the ground, threw away food that was prepared ahead of time, and then gave me a multi-thousand dollar citation for something that runs me a $50 ticket in NY. So, apologies if I don't think this is something that should just be shrugged off for the sake of keeping the sanctity of Southern hospitality intact.
Dismiss what I'm saying all you want, but it's not like Bonnaroo is the only music festival I've ever attended. It is absolutely possible to a) rake in the cash, and b) catch big shipments of illegalness without profiling, extorting, and being all around shady dudes. I'm from NY, I have people try to f*ck me with a smile on their face on a daily basis, for a living I have to identify and destroy those people (figuratively). That's what happened there two years ago, and it sounds like that's what has happened to the majority of people I've spoken with who had similar searches.
This was my 4th roo and had no problems. Camped in pod 1. Did have a couple dudes scope things out early Friday morning but when they realized I was staring back at them with my knife they kicked rocks. I did notice alot more cops in the campground this year. That kinda bummed me out...
I'd like to here more people's experiences with cops riding through campsites on ATV's and harassing people with bowls. Anyone else have this kind of experience? Or witness it happen?
On Thursday morning, one friend near pod 2 I think was sitting outside his tent by himself smoking a bowl. Cop walks up, takes his stash and writes a citation. I was actually really surprised by the police presence this year. They were all over the place.