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I have heard him. It takes more than a spectacle to get me to a show. There has to be another reason. Such as enjoying or even being on the fence about the music. What he is like or at least his persona is simply just another reason not to see him. The important and most heavily weighted is not enjoying the music, at all. Call it closed minded if you would like, no skin off my back.
Can you please stop referencing "persona." I'm willing to bet if we went through the catalog of artists you like to listen to, we'll find plenty of assholes. Being an asshole and a top-selling artists isn't charting new territory, so let's just leave it at you not liking his music, which is fair enough of a reason (even if I think it's ridiculous).
I have heard him. It takes more than a spectacle to get me to a show. There has to be another reason. Such as enjoying or even being on the fence about the music. What he is like or at least his persona is simply just another reason not to see him. The important and most heavily weighted is not enjoying the music, at all. Call it closed minded if you would like, no skin off my back.
I'm willing to bet if we went through the catalog of artists you like to listen to, we'll find plenty of assholes. Being an asshole and a top-selling artists isn't charting new territory
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Jan 26, 2014 13:32:31 GMT -5
The best part about this thread is that the poll is overwhelmingly pro-Kanye, yet the comments are filled with the old timers raging against the dying of their relevance.
I have heard him. It takes more than a spectacle to get me to a show. There has to be another reason. Such as enjoying or even being on the fence about the music. What he is like or at least his persona is simply just another reason not to see him. The important and most heavily weighted is not enjoying the music, at all. Call it closed minded if you would like, no skin off my back.
Can you please stop referencing "persona." I'm willing to bet if we went through the catalog of artists you like to listen to, we'll find plenty of assholes. Being an asshole and a top-selling artists isn't charting new territory, so let's just leave it at you not liking his music, which is fair enough of a reason (even if I think it's ridiculous).
I refer to his persona because I do not know him personally, so I was trying to be fair in regards to how he comes across to me. Maybe he is a great person and just says and does some of the things he says and does for the publicity.
And I never said that all the people I listen to are upstanding citizens. I have heard Colin Meloy is a real piece of work...but I do enjoy his music quite a bit, so I listen to it. Again, it is a combination of not liking BOTH Kanyes personality AND his music that leads me to not care to see him at Roo or anywhere else. For example, I do not enjoy Tools music either, but I sat at the back of main stage and gave it a listen. Still didn't like it. I know Maynard is pretty eccentric in his own right. I do not go out of my way to see what Kanye or Maynard have to say. But from what I have heard I do not like Kanye. I am sure there is an artist out there that I enjoy that you do not. To say that you not liking that artist because I (and a lot of others do) is ridiculous, would be ridiculous.
The the only thing just as puzzling as the people that hold on to such hate for what happened in 08 are the people that, for the life of them, cannot accept that some people do not like his music.
The the only thing just as puzzling as the people that hold on to such hate for what happened in 08 are the people that, for the life of them, cannot accept that some people do not like his music.
No, what's puzzling is that people like you need to wear their dislike of Kanye like a badge of honor.
The the only thing just as puzzling as the people that hold on to such hate for what happened in 08 are the people that, for the life of them, cannot accept that some people do not like his music.
No, what's puzzling is that people like you need to wear their dislike of Kanye like a badge of honor.
This is not the Kanye appreciation thread. If I am not going to be at the set I thought it warranted an explanation. Something I thought you would appreciate since you jump all over people for not having a reason for their positions. If my explanation was not good enough for you, oh well. I tried. It is not a badge of honor...whatever that means in this scenario. I do not not like his music not even enough to check him out on the main stage, if I can help it. I know that is a concept you just cannot understand, so I guess we can leave it at that.
No, what's puzzling is that people like you need to wear their dislike of Kanye like a badge of honor.
This is not the Kanye appreciation thread. If I am not going to be at the set I thought it warranted an explanation. Something I thought you would appreciate since you jump all over people for not having a reason for their positions. If my explanation was not good enough for you, oh well. I tried. It is not a badge of honor...whatever that means in this scenario. I do not not like his music not even enough to check him out on the main stage, if I can help it. I know that is a concept you just cannot understand, so I guess we can leave it at that.
The the only thing just as puzzling as the people that hold on to such hate for what happened in 08 are the people that, for the life of them, cannot accept that some people do not like his music.
No, what's puzzling is that people like you need to wear their worship of Kanye like a badge of honor.
The the only thing just as puzzling as the people that hold on to such hate for what happened in 08 are the people that, for the life of them, cannot accept that some people do not like his music.
No, what's puzzling is that people like you need to wear their dislike of Kanye like a badge of honor.
I'm willing to bet if we went through the catalog of artists you like to listen to, we'll find plenty of assholes. Being an asshole and a top-selling artists isn't charting new territory
The best part about this thread is that the poll is overwhelmingly pro-Kanye, yet the comments are filled with the old timers raging against the dying of their relevance.
So what you're saying is that the minority should have no voice. Also we are currently at: 59% yes 13% in the middle 27% no
Not exactly a landslide IMO.
Also what's with the "old timers" rant, you seem upset.
The best part about this thread is that the poll is overwhelmingly pro-Kanye, yet the comments are filled with the old timers raging against the dying of their relevance.
So what you're saying is that the minority should have no voice. Also we are currently at: 59% yes 13% in the middle 27% no
Not exactly a landslide IMO.
Also what's with the "old timers" rant, you seem upset.
That is a landslide, that's over twice as many "yes" as "no" votes.
And you're currently posting in BOTH Kanye West threads. For someone that doesn't like him at all, you're spending an incredible amount of time and energy talking about him.
So what you're saying is that the minority should have no voice. Also we are currently at: 59% yes 13% in the middle 27% no
Not exactly a landslide IMO.
Also what's with the "old timers" rant, you seem upset.
That is a landslide, that's over twice as many "yes" as "no" votes.
And you're currently posting in BOTH Kanye West threads. For someone that doesn't like him at all, you're spending an incredible amount of time and energy talking about him.
If I see an active thread, and if I have something to say about the threads topic, I will post in it. This thread is directed towards anyone, pro or anti ,seeing as how it's a poll
Jove, if you want to see Kanye then you are super cool. Because you have risen above the rest of the cretins, mouth breathers and "ridiculous" people that are unwilling or to stupid to recognize just how good Kanye West is.
If you do not want to see him...you are, most likely, a mouth breathing cretin that has a music sensibility so underdeveloped you cannot realize how good Kanye West is. And it is ridiculous that you do not like his music.
At least that was what I picked up when I posted in this thread. And I didn't trash the music at all. I just said I didn't like it. I even was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt on his personality. But that was not good enough either.
Jove, if you want to see Kanye then you are super cool. Because you have risen above the rest of the cretins, mouth breathers and "ridiculous" people that are unwilling or to stupid to recognize just how good Kanye West is.
If you do not want to see him...you are, most likely, a mouth breathing cretin that has a music sensibility so underdeveloped you cannot realize how good Kanye West is. And it is ridiculous that you do not like his music.
At least that was what I picked up when I posted in this thread. And I didn't trash the music at all. I just said I didn't like it. I even was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt on his personality. But that was not good enough either.
Good luck.
I have gone on record several times saying I didn't think yeezus was a good album, and I would skip his show at Roo for any number of other potential performers, and I have yet to be called a mouth breathing cretin by anyone as far as I am aware.
The mouth breathing and cretin comments were mentioned along the way and not to me directly. But it was thrown out there that it was ridiculous that I did not like Kanye Wests music. It is just interesting to me that even in this thread, that is not meant just for Kanye fans. People are taking quite an offense at some that legitimately have no interest in seeing him perform. That's all Dave, nothing more. It's all good in the neighborhood. :-)
Jove, if you want to see Kanye then you are super cool. Because you have risen above the rest of the cretins, mouth breathers and "ridiculous" people that are unwilling or to stupid to recognize just how good Kanye West is.
If you do not want to see him...you are, most likely, a mouth breathing cretin that has a music sensibility so underdeveloped you cannot realize how good Kanye West is. And it is ridiculous that you do not like his music.
At least that was what I picked up when I posted in this thread. And I didn't trash the music at all. I just said I didn't like it. I even was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt on his personality. But that was not good enough either.
The mouth breathing and cretin comments were mentioned along the way and not to me directly. But it was thrown out there that it was ridiculous that I did not like Kanye Wests music. It is just interesting to me that even in this thread, that is not meant just for Kanye fans. People are taking quite an offense at some that legitimately have no interest in seeing him perform. That's all Dave, nothing more. It's all good in the neighborhood. :-)
I would argue that there are plenty of people being inappropriate on the other side as well. I just don't see what it is about him that makes it necessary to argue back and forth for what seems like years over him.
Post by crazykittensmile on Jan 26, 2014 20:55:30 GMT -5
I don't think people are at all offended that people are skipping his show. Why would we care? I even said I skip a headliner or two every year.
I do get bristly when people insult his fans (aka "how can any music fan listen to that shiz") or when people imply that they're going to expend energy making his performance un-enjoyable for people that do want to see it, or at least hope it is ruined in some way.
Jove, if you want to see Kanye then you are super cool. Because you have risen above the rest of the cretins, mouth breathers and "ridiculous" people that are unwilling or to stupid to recognize just how good Kanye West is.
If you do not want to see him...you are, most likely, a mouth breathing cretin that has a music sensibility so underdeveloped you cannot realize how good Kanye West is. And it is ridiculous that you do not like his music.
At least that was what I picked up when I posted in this thread. And I didn't trash the music at all. I just said I didn't like it. I even was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt on his personality. But that was not good enough either.
I don't think people are at all offended that people are skipping his show. Why would we care? I even said I skip a headliner or two every year.
This. If Elton and Kanye are two of the headliners, that's 2/3 of the headliners already that I don't really care about seeing, but I am not gonna bum rush every thread about Elton complaining about it.
I don't think people are at all offended that people are skipping his show. Why would we care? I even said I skip a headliner or two every year.
This. If Elton and Kanye are two of the headliners, that's 2/3 of the headliners already that I don't really care about seeing, but I am not gonna bum rush every thread about Elton complaining about it.
That's just because Elton John fans would throw glitter in your face and that shit is a pain to get off.